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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 13, 2019 7:49:48 GMT -5
Two tankers "attacked" off the coast of Iran. Usn on the scene.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 13, 2019 8:42:05 GMT -5
This one won't be pretty, not that the ongoing ones are, but this will be different.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 13, 2019 8:43:39 GMT -5
Finally, America will be Great Again with a fine, bold leader.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 13, 2019 13:54:26 GMT -5
Pompeo says the evidence is (shockingly) Iran done it. No, you may not see the evidence.
House of Saud did it. We're going to war for the Ayrabs this time. Yay.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 14, 2019 6:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by bobathon on Jun 14, 2019 6:58:50 GMT -5
AUMF is the forever war we always wanted. None of that pesky process stuff.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 14, 2019 7:41:31 GMT -5
God bless Merika. God bless John Bolton.  |
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Post by minx on Jun 14, 2019 8:35:42 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Japan says that they're not all that sure Iran attacked their tanker and want to investigate.
WTF is wrong with them? Trump said Iran did it, and he never lies, right?
It would be nice if the entire Senate and House did their job for a change and stood as one to tell our beloved leader and his secretary of state to slow their roll before we're all cutlets on the range.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 14, 2019 8:39:26 GMT -5
Trump said Iran did it, and he never lies, right? Trump said that Bolton said that Pompeo said that Bibi said Iran did it. Fixed it for ya. |
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Post by bobathon on Jun 14, 2019 8:40:40 GMT -5
AUMF trumps that checks and balances thing by using the magic word "terrorism". And didn't top liar recently declare the Iranian Guard to be terrorists?
Interesting how these limpet mines and/or torpedoes are making their holes above the waterline, like a sea-skimming missile would. Like a limpet mine or torpedo would not.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 14, 2019 10:06:54 GMT -5
So why was AUMF never rescinded after, say, Obama took office?
We are 18 years removed from 9/11 and Congress in any of it's configurations has seen fit to go back to the original Constitutional requirements for declaring war?
Why have they/we waited until we have PNAC Duex cocked locked and read to rocket? I guess we've been too busy, what with all the fighting over school bathrooms, beautiful walls, and super important stuff like that.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 14, 2019 10:14:16 GMT -5
Because it would inconvenience the MITC.
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Post by rally2xs on Jun 14, 2019 10:35:59 GMT -5
Yeah, lets let Iran do whatever it wants, go back to the "agreement" so Iran has nukes in 10 years as was the plan, and then they loft it 100 miles over the center of the USA, explode it, the power grid collapses in 100% of the country and can't be fixed in under 5 years because those high voltage transformers are not available quicker than that, and... 92% of the population starves because there's no food because there's no electricity to make it possible to grow and transport it.
Sure, just pull back and let the damned bastard terrorists do what they want. We don't need to have a future beyond 10 years, I'll likely be dead by then anyway, so lets let it happen when we could otherwise prevent it.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 14, 2019 10:50:45 GMT -5
It's like you don't even inhabit the same planet. Somehow, all our European friends are falling for Iran's nonsense? While our stuporgenius prednisent listens to the PNAC crowd, who never got over their war boner? You just want war, too.
Seriously, there is no incentive for Iran to be making waves. And war there is going to suck, they have a real army.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 14, 2019 10:52:14 GMT -5
Rally, what I think you are referring to is what is known as a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Post by rally2xs on Jun 14, 2019 11:38:47 GMT -5
"Seriously, there is no incentive for Iran to be making waves."
Are you fucking insane or just that stupid? They are in the grips of a bunch of religious wack-jobs who are bent on converting the whole world to Islam, even if it means killing everyone that won't bow to their medieval ways. They _will_ nuke us if they get the chance, and the dumbshit agreement that was crafted by the dumbshit we had for President previously, simply for him to be able to say that "I did this", will allow them to build a bomb in 10 years. They'll do it, and the USA will cease to exist. Its that simply. You would let it happen. Trump won't.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 14, 2019 13:01:19 GMT -5
"Seriously, there is no incentive for Iran to be making waves." Are you fucking insane or just that stupid? They are in the grips of a bunch of religious wack-jobs who are bent on converting the whole world to Islam, even if it means killing everyone that won't bow to their medieval ways. They _will_ nuke us if they get the chance, and the dumbshit agreement that was crafted by the dumbshit we had for President previously, simply for him to be able to say that "I did this", will allow them to build a bomb in 10 years. They'll do it, and the USA will cease to exist. Its that simply. You would let it happen. Trump won't. Yeah, voice of idiocy there. Europe was happy with that agreement, and they are way more susceptible to Iranian shenanigans. It's like your brain is defective. PS One Iranian nuke destroys what Trump leaves of the USA, and us with no ability to retaliate? Have you increased your dose of stupid pills? You seem to live in a psychotic cartoon driven by warmonger propaganda. Radicalized by Murdoch you are. |
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Post by rally2xs on Jun 14, 2019 13:33:36 GMT -5
"Seriously, there is no incentive for Iran to be making waves." Are you fucking insane or just that stupid? They are in the grips of a bunch of religious wack-jobs who are bent on converting the whole world to Islam, even if it means killing everyone that won't bow to their medieval ways. They _will_ nuke us if they get the chance, and the dumbshit agreement that was crafted by the dumbshit we had for President previously, simply for him to be able to say that "I did this", will allow them to build a bomb in 10 years. They'll do it, and the USA will cease to exist. Its that simply. You would let it happen. Trump won't. Yeah, voice of idiocy there. Europe was happy with that agreement, and they are way more susceptible to Iranian shenanigans. It's like your brain is defective. PS One Iranian nuke destroys what Trump leaves of the USA, and us with no ability to retaliate? Have you increased your dose of stupid pills? You seem to live in a psychotic cartoon driven by warmonger propaganda. Radicalized by Murdoch you are. Of course we could retaliate, so what? That wouldn't prevent 92% of the people from starving to death. Yeah, Iran would be a cinder too, and probably the entire world would have nuclear exchanges and that would be the end of it, but the F'n Iranians are insane, and its their way or else. They get a nuke, and, same as NK getting a nuke, it will be used, it will trigger massive retaliation from all that are capable, and the world with then die in nuclear poison. |
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Post by bobathon on Jun 14, 2019 13:49:38 GMT -5
DPRK already *has* nukes. Duh.
Guess who is giving nuke tech to that exemplar of peace and restraint, the House of Saud? 15 of 19 and Trumpco is exporting nuke tech to them. What's the worst that could happen?
I'll just mark you down as "all in" on many more American deaths driven by Trumpco's lies. Because wars are easy to win. I know you really don't care about the lives, like you lied about wrt PPACA. You're just too emotionally invested in Trump to understand the down side of charging off to a trumped up war, bad pun intended.
PS Don't anybody tell him who's whispering "let's you and him fight" in America's ear.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 14, 2019 16:45:54 GMT -5
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 14, 2019 16:47:37 GMT -5
You had to quote him ... Didn't you?
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Post by minx on Jun 14, 2019 16:56:44 GMT -5
Why should we all have to suffer alone?
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 14, 2019 19:08:24 GMT -5
Indeed.
"But I went down to the demonstration
To get my fair share of abuse
Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration
If we don't we're gonna blow a fifty-amp fuse" Rolling Stones
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Post by bobathon on Jun 15, 2019 5:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 15, 2019 10:53:26 GMT -5
Gulf of Tonkin with Adobe Premiere
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 15, 2019 11:19:14 GMT -5
Actually the crew on board the Japanese ship said they were hit by a flying object, but so what? Here's one for you: I think Trump stated he pulled Brennan's security clearance, but if it got pulled or not is unclear. He may have been overruled or he might be posturing again, who knows. Can Trump fire Bolton? Not clear who is running things. This is why they want to hang on to those clearances, pays off big time in the arms industry and lobbying revolving door, plus selling off information. Also good for Congress with their insider trading bidness. They roll up their noses when discussing corruption in other countries.
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Post by minx on Jun 16, 2019 15:31:13 GMT -5
Yeah, so what? It's not my children who will fight this latest war, so why should I care? When I was at the polls, a woman came in - I recognized her last name and asked if she was XX's mom. She said yes, and I mentioned that he went to school with my daughter - how was he doing? Well, he was in Texas right now and they were processing his discharge paperwork. He had returned from an extended tour in Afghanistan, and luckily he has only lost his hearing - they were blessed. Blessed. Because their 25 year old child had 'only' lost his hearing. This man was 5 years old on 9/11. He was a bright, funny kid who had the energy of 20 kids but was very sweet. And now he's deaf and probably will have little to no training or support from our government to rebuild his life. And he is indeed one of the 'lucky' ones. I think that every single member of our elected government and cabinet heads should have to visit all of the military hospitals in the US and talk with all of these 'lucky' men. Ask them what they were fighting for, and ask them if they feel that their sacrifice has made the world any safer. On second thought, I change my mind - probably the only thing that is preventing them all from going completely insane and killing the rest of us is the thought that we didn't sacrifice them just for political or monetary gain.... And as I watch all the war-mongering, I think of XX and all of the people like him. The lucky ones.  |
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 16, 2019 15:43:34 GMT -5
Wonder how they're going to treat all the new cases of Bonespurs.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 16, 2019 16:14:03 GMT -5
Yeah, so what? It's not my children who will fight this latest war, so why should I care? This next conflict will likely not be just images on tv. It could likely spiral out of control very quickly, and will impact us very badly on our soil. Armies don't even need to bomb us anymore, just a couple of emps, some bio agents, and economic and electronic hacking and we're done. We'll kill ourselves, even worse than we're doing now. The US's hegemony is fading fast, and the desperation to hang on is very obvious. It's better to imagine how the world will look after we've faded, because that is inevitable. We had our chance to lead and we let the liars and warmakers take total control, driven on by the international banksters. |
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Post by bobathon on Jun 17, 2019 4:58:41 GMT -5
Aww, who wants to survive to when the climate kills us? The water and food wars haven't even started.
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