I suspect that John is celebrating today

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With his good buddy Bobby Marley and his brother Snoop - D.

But he smokes alone.  With nobody else.
Because when he smokes alone, he prefers to be by himself.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

I won't bogart that joint, my friend.

[k9krap]

It’s also earth day!

(I am celebrating, but mine is smokeless. 😃)

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There was a huge party in Old Mill Park on Saturday - lots of people talking about nature.

Didn't realize the city was into herbs

Oh wait...wrong party.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

Bet that was groovy.

I'm sitting here at UVA waiting out in the car while she gets her infusion. Kinda sorta wish I would've brought the digeridoo aka "dugout" to help pass the time. But I had a Dunkin coffee roll regardless.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

www.huffpost.com/entry/middle-age-weed-use-reaction_n_66186b9de4b00c2fbcbdb83e

Like the first article I read today so I was fresh, and saw a few interesting things. All in all a very good quick read that a lot of people could take a lesson from. I wish I had known before I took a healthy toke on brother-man's vape at HT a while back.... that I was vaping 94% pure THC and by the way, that's concentrated THC oil. Holy fuckin sheepshit.

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I think the article made a lot of good points. Know before you toke!

[Dave's Not Here Man]

At least in some places, the "dispensary" concept might be more harmful than helpful. The way their story read, the "prescriber" was negligent in explaining the potency issue for those with no recent experience, and started them off with a higher cbd and lower thc strain. Meanwhile- One should probably do a little research long before talking to Dr. Buzzwell on facetime. This info is readily available online.

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In multiple forms, formats and sources. It's not hard to find.

I will say that the content of vapes really were an eye-opener for me. Not the THC side, but the nicotine side.
Never thought about the fact that the nic was concentrated and went directly to your brain and the hit is a lot worse than many drugs. Ignored by a lot of people and parents who equate vaping as another form of smoking. And my experiences growing up with smokers was that nicotine is one of the hardest drugs to get off off. I didn't smoke a ton and it took me several tries before I successfully ditched the cigs once and for all.

I imagine vaping THC if it's super concentrated could be similar - you want that immediate intense high. Not partaking, I don't know for sure, but I've always been under the impression that the high from smoking or eatables takes a little longer to hit, but the effects also stay around longer. Is that correct?

[k9krap]

Most edibles have to be digested and processed by your liver before you get any results. It takes about an hour or so. Smoking is pretty instantaneous. There’s also the nano tinctures that hit quickly (the THC is reduced to small enough size that it can be absorbed into the bloodstream, bypassing the liver).

I’m now taking supplements to support my liver, since I use so many edibles (and abused Vicodin).  

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Ah, thanks. As someone who does not partake, I did not know the full difference. I'm always glad to get more info.

Just because I don't partake, it doesn't mean that I don't want it legalized. And the more we who don't partake can help educate others who don't partake and are against this, the better the chances of that day coming.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

I've yet to have an edible that gave me any rise, but my experience with them is minimal. Once upon a time, many moons ago, we would occasionally run into something we called "creeper" reefer. It took 15 or so minutes to start feeling the buzz. It was also usually the longest lasting and very relaxing, as I called it "final descent". As for the other 98% of the time, it's anywhere from 1-2 minutes before takeoff. With the vape I mentioned it was like an f18 being launched off an aircraft carrier. Not a fan.

If you ever decide to spark one up for liberty, and I think curiosity is generally a strength, you can now choose your weed (I hate calling it cannabis) to order. I know of at least 2 apps where you select your produce and it will be delivered right to you, but as of right now you have to go to DC to get your doorstash.

ETA- regarding the legalization, I honestly don't understand why anyone would still support the prohibition of marijuana. Yes there can be extremely frightening side effects. They kept me off it for 25 years after I started having panic attacks. I assume that would be the vast majority of folks that show up to the ER and have yet to hear of one single person not being able to fully recover in a few hours. Of those, and I'm guessing of course, half won't partake again, and the other half will reach for the lite version and build up a little tolerance. 

[k9krap]

Years ago, there was a cop that called 911. He and his wife had eaten pot brownies and were scared by how they were feeling. I remember Howard playing the 911 call. “Time is passing very slowly!” 🤣🤣

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I know that people in favor of legalization get super pissed off when stories are published talking about the 'hidden dangers' of weed.
OTOH, even though it's natural, it's not entirely benign and people need to be educated before they eat an entire pack of edibles - for a certain subset of folks, it does induce paranoia or can bring on a panic attack.

It's not saying that everyone experiences it, but some folks do - so to me, it's like the warning information you get with any medication - can cause side effects.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

No warning sticker on tequila either. !MAY CAUSE NUDITY!

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That is irrelevant, cause I drink alone.

With nobody else.

[k9krap]

And you’re a nudist.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

I totally let that get past me LOL

[minx]

In all honesty I can't drink tequila in more than a very small amount - really gives me a headache - wine does as well.

So my friends are vodka and rum

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And I'm not talking about warning labels - more of a 'know before you partake'.
Sorta like what's done with alcohol - hard liquor is stronger than wine and beer. Drink too much and you'll have a bad hangover. Some people can handle alcohol better than others - you may be drunk and not realize it.

Stuff like that. Not reefer madness shit.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

Ages old pattern that most of us have experienced. Like when you got into your folks' likka cabinet. You learn almost immediately that a couple pulls of Jim Beam (or in my case Southern Comfort) exceeded your youthful limitations, evidenced by what will soon be a routine of puking until the dry heaves set in and sleeping on the cold floor in front of the toilet. 

Timely topic in another way, also, because they are changing pot from a I to a III on the controlled substance schedule. There's a lot of bruhaha about it but they need to take it off altogether in order to get where it's more like alcohol and less like ketamine.

[minx]

About time they upgraded it, although like you I think it should be off the list completely.

Think of all the tax revenue we could have collected if this shit was legalized and dispensaries were set up years ago.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

The implications are a really deeper than one might think. How about the poor schmuck that loses his job for eating a poppy seed muffin? It has happened. But what happens every day is peoples personal damn business being held against them by their employers, especially this bullshit with random drug testing. Mind you that the spliff you smoked was after work or on your day off. The next work day they hand you a sample cup.

Then there's the folks that get some relief mentally and physically who are dropped first by their medical provider or cut off from other controlled meds. Hello!

And then of course are the other truly unlucky "offenders" locked up for simple possession. That is becoming less common, I know, but it's still happening and simply recategorizing it still leaves the door wide open for that. If you so much as pass the joint they can still get you for distribution. Lol this is for sure not an improvement more than a headline in my opinion.