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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 21, 2024 10:19:01 GMT -5
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Post by minx on Jun 21, 2024 10:45:47 GMT -5
Have to admit that I was shocked to see Alito in the majority.
Biggest issue is getting that restraining order - not as easy as people think, and in many cases will put the victim in greater danger. Don't know a way around that.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 21, 2024 11:12:57 GMT -5
I was just saying, that if there's an 8-1 decision, regardless of the case, who is the first one you think of as the 1? I said it before finishing the headline and long before reading about it further.
On the issue itself, I don't agree in general that a restraining order constitutes ordering the person named on it/them to surrender their firearms. That should only be done in cases where they were found by a court of law to be guilty of domestic abuse and/or using the firearm in the commission of domestic abuse. Other than that, I don't really have any firm conviction on how it should be applied.
Any law abiding person fearing for their safety should take as many actions as necessary to protect themselves up to, and including learning how to defend themselves with or without weapons, arming themselves, and legal avenues. I seriously doubt, and I mean this in all honesty, that a piece of paper has ever stopped a person from harming anyone they fully intend to harm. Gun or no gun.
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Post by minx on Jun 23, 2024 11:59:32 GMT -5
Most restraining orders are for violence or harassment.
And that piece of paper ain't worth shit if it's for violence. So many cases of people calling 911 pleading for help because someone said they were coming for them, where nothing has been done.
So many studies have shown that arresting the abuser or getting a restraining order doesn't do shit. Most get out on bond within 24 hours, smile at their victims and say 'See you soon!' Then people wonder why the victims refuse to go to court or 'do more'.
And while the vast majority of abusers are men, women can be abusers as well. The entire scenario is not taken seriously enough.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 23, 2024 12:18:20 GMT -5
I was only assuming that based on what the person at the SO said. It took her a minute to figure out the reason why they were in the neighborhood to begin with and said that a car was reported stolen and they were asking if anyone had seen anything, or "possibly" if their cameras alerted them. The investigating deputy called me back, was real congenial, and I offered to check my recording between the times they felt it occurred. Unfortunately I only have my doorbell camera recording and only when it detects motion close to the house (I have it set that way so not to alert every time a car goes down the street) and when the button is pressed. There were no recordings or alarms in that time frame so it appears at least they weren't studying my vehicle/house/etc.
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Post by minx on Jun 23, 2024 18:43:11 GMT -5
Suspect is running through the neighborhood with no diaper...
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