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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 14, 2024 15:55:27 GMT -5
Uncle Joe is going to give an Oval Office address some time this evening. All signs (and moral logic) point to him condemning the attempted assassination of former (I really hope his prompter has those exact words) President and presumed nominee, him.
Awesome. Most of us will be watching what will probably be an appeal for humanity, though what we'll also be doing is yet another forensic study of his words and how he says them.
Hail Mary or the right thing to do? I guess it depends on how you look at it but you know my answer.
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Post by minx on Jul 15, 2024 7:39:40 GMT -5
I think he did a good job. Measured and said all the things that needed to be said.
Meanwhile the Republicans are frothing at the mouth as usual.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 15, 2024 9:32:20 GMT -5
Would have been even better if he wasn't slurring words and calling the ballot box the battle box twice. But yes it clearly demonstrated that, above all, he's a decent man. Painting him as anything different could be very off-putting to other decent people. I'll tell you this much for a fact, he's a better man than I am because my exact words would have been "you reap what you sow".
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Post by minx on Jul 15, 2024 15:16:27 GMT -5
Shit. I'd have said "Now is not the time to talk about things like gun control or the violent rhetoric that's coming from my opponents." Now is the time for thoughts and prayers.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 15, 2024 15:47:28 GMT -5
Couple of minor problems there. First is that the squirrel has already been released- the Secret Service failed to protect him because of DEI. Add to that that were more people carrying guns there were so many people that saw him first would have been able to neutralize him. Nevermind forearms arent allowed by attendees. You might as well be talking to Ted Nugent
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Post by minx on Jul 16, 2024 7:42:31 GMT -5
Which brings up a valid point. Why weren't the good guys with guns allowed into the venue? They would have neutralized that guy before he even picked that gun up!
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 16, 2024 11:32:11 GMT -5
The irony of course is that a good guy with a gun might shoot at the bad guy at the podium.
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Post by minx on Jul 17, 2024 7:59:04 GMT -5
OMG John! How could you say that?! We all KNOW that the good guy with the gun never misses his target!
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 17, 2024 11:45:22 GMT -5
I'm a good guy (I think) and I'm total shit with handguns outside of 20 yards. Much better with long guns but that was when I had great vision. Even back then, I still missed a lot.
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Post by minx on Jul 17, 2024 12:35:51 GMT -5
I'm still baffled by the whole stockpiling ammo.
So I have two guns. A handgun and a shotgun. Just how quickly am I going to be able to reload if facing an army of attackers?
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 17, 2024 13:04:08 GMT -5
Not fast enough.
This is the first I've heard of it. Is someone suggesting stockpiling ammo again or accusing the IRS of it?
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Post by minx on Jul 17, 2024 13:40:19 GMT -5
Not right now, but only because Trump is leading in polls.
It just cracks me up that people feel a need at anytime to stockpile ammo at any time - like they're Quick Draw McGraw and can reload at the speed of light.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 17, 2024 13:54:18 GMT -5
Certain types of ammo are getting harder to find and the prices on all ammo has gone way up. I think the word stockpiling is probably greatly exaggerating what people are or would be actually doing. I assume most folks buying lots of ammo are making sure they have it for all their firearms while it's available and while they can afford it. Other than relics or collectibles, it makes no sense not to have ammo for your firearms. For example, I wouldn't mind having at least 1000 rounds for each of mine. That would allow me to at least get some practice in from time to time. As we have all learned recently, proficiency is key. Unfortunately, neither is on my list of priorities right now. In the weeks and months ahead I may need to re-evaluate that list.
Now the ones that talk the most about "stockpiling" are talking about ammo that is used in high capacity magazines. For example, your combat style rifles, which is what those people are actually talking about, usually hold between 30 and 50 rounds. Think "banana clip" you see on all the AK-47 s the fine young men are running with in the 40 year old stock footage of terrorist training camp. In any kind of actionable use of those arms, you'd want to have as many full magazines as possible and/or practical in any given situation. Shotguns don't work that way so I'm not sure why the hell anyone would want or need a hundred thousand shells for one or even 10 shotguns.
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Post by minx on Jul 18, 2024 8:22:39 GMT -5
Ah, thanks for that clarification. Because I honestly didn't know why you would need more than 200 rounds at the most.
Second question - ammo doesn't 'expire', right? If I bought a set of shotgun shells in the 60s, and my gun was still in good working order, there's be no reason why I can't use them today, right? Thinking about the old war days when things exploded in your face here...
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 18, 2024 9:13:00 GMT -5
Some debate on shelf life. Of course how it's stored is just as important as what is stored. If stored properly brass ammo would last indefinitely IMO. I've shot .22 that was 40 years old with no problems.
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Post by minx on Jul 18, 2024 13:44:06 GMT -5
Thanks! I learned something new.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 18, 2024 17:19:10 GMT -5
Anytime you need useless information I'm your guy.
~ Clifford Clavan, USPS
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Post by minx on Jul 19, 2024 8:27:30 GMT -5
My favorite Clavan moment is still when he went on Jeopardy and all the clues were about mail, stamps, the history of the post office. Going into final Jeopardy, he had 3 times the amount of his nearest opponent.
Sam and the crew are watching at the bar. Sam says "He's done it". Norm looks at him and says "Ya gotta have faith" Cliff then bets everything and misses the question.
We use that line all the time around here when something seems like a sure bet - 'Ya gotta have faith...'
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 19, 2024 14:40:03 GMT -5
Oh dang I don't remember that one. Goals for the weekend!
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Post by minx on Jul 20, 2024 4:04:08 GMT -5
Trebek himself was a guest star on it. Super funny episode.
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