thinking about a basic standard income for US citizens

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all US citizens 21 years or older. I am thinking $1500 month, no strings, maybe a small kickback income tax or probably none. Do with it what you will. This to do away with all welfare and other forms of entitlement except perhaps genuine hardship cases, which would trigger more supervision and time limit. This is a basic guaranteed income, and you could supplement this with working income. Do away with 30,000 pages of tax laws, fundamentally change the IRS and caretaker bureaucracy. etc, and could generate jobs. I have about 3 days tree removal in the woods, and would appreciate any thoughts on it, I see some good things and bad things. What we do now has a limited shelf life, considering the disappearance of jobs.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

Put that into education and job training, expand grants for the SBA, and save the rest for those "genuine hardship cases", which is where welfare belongs in the first place.

There's this narrative that people want to be taken care of. It's a false narrative. There have always been people who would rather live minimum effort lives but the vast majority are not like that. It hasn't helped that employers now treat the job market like a fish farming operation. Anyone who has applied for a job in the last 5-10 years knows it's an electronic algorithm based screening process that if fortunate enough to get a face to face interview, is more like a test to see if the prospective employee can maintain a tv commercial smile and meet or exceed how many buzzwords you can fit into the dialogue by the interviewer.

Whereas in days gone by, you saw a sign on a winder, walked into the business, and filled out an application. You at least got a chance to make a first impression if nothing else. Now that first impression is a HR software program's scoring system.

[MF]

Anyone who has applied for a job in the last 5-10 years

Should say --a lot of people who.......

Not all get lost in HR computer hell......

[MF]

May 7, 2016 8:20:29 GMT -5 [e-mail] said:

all US citizens 21 years or older. I am thinking $1500 month, no strings, maybe a small kickback income tax or probably none. Do with it what you will. This to do away with all welfare and other forms of entitlement except perhaps genuine hardship cases, which would trigger more supervision and time limit. This is a basic guaranteed income, and you could supplement this with working income. Do away with 30,000 pages of tax laws, fundamentally change the IRS and caretaker bureaucracy. etc, and could generate jobs. I have about 3 days tree removal in the woods, and would appreciate any thoughts on it, I see some good things and bad things. What we do now has a limited shelf life, considering the disappearance of jobs.

Does that include the lazy that refuse to work ? With kids ?

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May 7, 2016 8:20:29 GMT -5 [e-mail] said:

all US citizens 21 years or older.

This may help. I don't see it as giving someone something, I see it as a way to give people a share in the economy and a sense of empowerment instead of a sense of being cared for. That's around 20,000 annual, not enough to fly to Europe for the weekend, but to provide basic needs and let a family plan their own future better than the goberment, who don't really care one way or the other. That would be about 40,000 year for a couple, married or not, 60,000 for a 3 way. That might encourage fathers to stay out of trouble and stay home, maybe even get a job. Especially if they lose their stipend if they are incarcerated. It would hopefully take control of peoples lives away from career politicians and give it back to the people that do the heavy lifting and hopefully quit dividing us. Just a suggestion.

[MF]

I like the overall idea... I just don't want to support the I'm to lazy to work culture.....