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Post by rally2xs on Oct 19, 2015 8:40:00 GMT -5
Much wiser men than any of us (the founding fathers) felt this same way, so I am happy to be in their company and distrusting gov't. Uhhh, no, they didn't feel the same way. Again, must be real nice living in that fantasy world of yours. Uhhh... yeah, they did, which is why they wrote the 2nd Amendment in the 1st place.
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Post by MF on Oct 19, 2015 14:35:49 GMT -5
Uhhh, no, they didn't feel the same way. Again, must be real nice living in that fantasy world of yours. Uhhh... yeah, they did, which is why they wrote the 2nd Amendment in the 1st place. THE most important thing to them they put in went into the first amend, freedom of speech and religion for obvious reasons. The second most important was the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government....
I would say it was pretty important to the founders,,,,
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Post by bobathon on Oct 19, 2015 14:41:52 GMT -5
Exactly what was their declared reason for the 2nd Amendment? Please provide the quote.
PS What did "bear arms" mean at the time? I have read that it meant to serve in the armed forces. Military duty, IOW. PPS Do you know that all males over 18 had to own a weapon and gear, by law, because they WERE the militia?
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Post by bobathon on Oct 19, 2015 14:43:07 GMT -5
PPPS What does "amendment" mean? Hint: their first thoughts were about constructing a government.
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Post by rally2xs on Oct 19, 2015 14:51:59 GMT -5
The Founders had weapons comparable to the contemporary military. How do your's compare to your contemporary military forces? Can you go up against our military? Of course not, so you and the Founders part ways quickly. Hell, at least they TRIED, and put their lives on the line, while you and your fellow thumbsuckers talk big about breaking out a 2nd Amendment solution but then you wait until maybe the moment is just right. Y'all are the archetypal WATBs. Yeah, when you're military is only 800,000 guys total, and you have millions of citizens that are armed and willing, yes you can. Much of our military might is what it is because of weapons that destroy the locations that the enemy is occupying. We can shell encampments. We can drop bombs on factories. We can do all sorts of hideous things to opposing forces, but what can we do against 3.5 million, or 35 million people that are all armed, and scattered pretty much uniformly throughout the population? We can't bomb or shell subdivisions because there's maybe 5 guys in 5 different houses somewhere in it, you have to go assault each one individually. If, out of the 5, you lose 1 of your guys, then with 800,000 military and, say, 5 million patriots, the forces of evil will run out of jack-booted thugs before we run out of patriots, and... we win!!! With 300 million guns in society and a whale of a lot of people that ALREADY take great exception with A LOT of what the gov't does already, it shouldn't be hard, under conditions signalling impending totalitarian rule, to get a few 10's of millions of people to oppose being so enslaved. And of course there will be lots of people still able to use the first amendment to illustrate to the people what their lives are about to be like under the tyrant while unable to to resist. Much of what the IRS does right now is tyranny - they have their own courts, law enforcement, can sieze your property just on their own say-so, etc. etc. Knowing that they would only get worse if given freer reign, would you want to live under them? I wouldn't.
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Post by MF on Oct 19, 2015 16:20:01 GMT -5
Exactly what was their declared reason for the 2nd Amendment? Please provide the quote. PS What did "bear arms" mean at the time? I have read that it meant to serve in the armed forces. Military duty, IOW. PPS Do you know that all males over 18 had to own a weapon and gear, by law, because they WERE the militia? Did ya'll see what the fucking moron wrote?? Damn if he isn't the biggest fucking dumb ass on the planet,,if he had a brain he might hurt himself...what a dope,,,,chicken shit piece of crap.... Ps.... you are a stupid fucking no mind idiot,,,, Pss.... if you happened to read the free Lance star 3 weeks ago you would have known,,,but,,,who am I kidding,, you fucking can't read shit,,,,god you are a fucking moron !!!!!
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Post by MF on Oct 19, 2015 16:22:19 GMT -5
Exactly what was their declared reason for the 2nd Amendment? Please provide the quote. PS What did "bear arms" mean at the time? I have read that it meant to serve in the armed forces. Military duty, IOW. PPS Do you know that all males over 18 had to own a weapon and gear, by law, because they WERE the militia? Did ya'll see what the fucking moron wrote?? Damn if he isn't the biggest fucking dumb ass on the planet,,if he had a brain he might hurt himself...what a dope,,,,chicken shit piece of crap.... Ps.... you are a stupid fucking no mind idiot,,,, Pss.... if you happened to read the free Lance star 3 weeks ago you would have known,,,but,,,who am I kidding,, you fucking can't read shit,,,,god you are a fucking moron !!!!! Guess who i was imitating ??
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Post by bobathon on Oct 19, 2015 17:13:16 GMT -5
Joe Momma?
You seem to be missing the points, so THAT didn't change.
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Post by pastafari on Oct 19, 2015 19:32:42 GMT -5
Pure cowardice. At least he knows what a dumbass he is, so he doesn't commit to anything because he knows he'll get smoked.
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Post by MF on Oct 20, 2015 1:18:16 GMT -5
Joe Momma? You seem to be missing the points, so THAT didn't change. Exactly !!!!!! Sux looking into the mirror doesn't it,,,,,,,lol..
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