I think I just had a "talkin' to",

[No. 1 son]

not sure, because her skill level is so high I may remember it as 'my idea'. I have to preserve my health, so we can go on cruises and take the grand kids on vacation although considering my counterparts I am doing ok. Not bad advise, and she certainly was here 45 years ago when it mattered so maybe my hearing is getting better. That or I've lost my autonomy. I'd have to ask her, though, and try to catch her offguard. As Tina Turner said I don't want to fight no mo'. 

[Dave's Not Here Man]

More bible stuff:

“Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die” .

[minx]

All joking aside Larry - do it while you can.

The husband of our old HR director was killed in an ATV accident on Saturday. They're in IN, and he took his ATV out onto a lake that he thought was frozen and he and the ATV fell through in the middle. He was only 48, but was a huge outdoorsman, and had ridden ATVs for years. I don't understand why he did something that risky, given his experience, but it is what it is.

Life is way too short to put things off. You never know what will happen, so don't put off things until it's too late.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

Shit happens I suppose. Beats lying in a nursing home with Alzheimers. I would easily trade off 20 years to not to have to deal with that horror.

[minx]

I think the onset is the worst. Once it's full-blown, the sufferer is fine as long as there's a routine, but the family suffers horribly.

My great-aunt had Alzheimers. It was awful having to move her from her home, but two months later when the disease had progressed she seemed calm and happy. The trick was to let her drive the bus so to speak. If she thought I was her sister, so be it - it made her happy to think of her sister, and that's what was important.

A friend's husband died two years ago from it and she said the same - he loved to see her visit, and remembered that she had visited before, but had no idea of who she was. Just a nice lady who came and talked to him while they walked outside in the garden that the facility had in their courtyard. It was heartbreaking for her, but she took comfort in knowing that he wasn't suffering mentally.

[k9krap]

My paternal grandfather was sharp, mentally, until he died. Unfortunately, he had several strokes and ended up in a nursing home, partially paralyzed. Whenever we visited, he seemed so frustrated and embarrassed that he wasn’t able to even pee without a catheter. That seems so horrible to me. My friend and I have a pact that we will help each other if we are ever in a situation like this or the ones you describe. Hospice is a wonderful thing, and make it easy to nudge the loved one along.

[minx]

A friend in Canada is training to be a Death Doula - basically they work like a maternity doula, but on the other end of the spectrum. Trained to work with people who have terminal illnesses or conditions to help them come to acceptance with dying, things to expect and general support and help.

Her husband died from complications of lymphoma. He had gone into remission, but the chemo was so harsh that his entire immune system was wiped out. She had no outside help or support (family and friends, but they had the same level of medical knowledge that she did), so she didn't know what options were out there. She doesn't want other families to have to go through that experience.

[No. 1 son]

Feb 5, 2019 9:31:42 GMT -5 minx said:

You never know what will happen, so don't put off things until it's too late.

You know what's going to happen you just don't have the details. I am in very good shape considering my lifestyle, and done a lot of things, some of them smart, some not so much, but a lot. At some point you no longer fear death, but you never lose the fear of not being in control or being a burden. We raised our kids to be self sufficient and happy, and I don't want to impact them with things I can't control. I do wish VA (Virginia, not vet's) :)would allow people to have some control over their death, and maybe even a little more control over their lives. I don't think anyone wishes to turn over all your earthly belongings to the state for a few more weeks of agony. It worked for Edgar G., and also contributed to the sustenance of our "growth".