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Post by bobathon on May 14, 2019 6:02:39 GMT -5
the conveniently nearby Venezuela or the traditional Iran?
I think Iran, what with so many PNAC boners running around. But you never know, they are attracted to the scents of oil and poverty. I doubt that will be sufficient distraction, so I'm expecting DOJ to be fully engaged in campaigning.
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Post by minx on May 14, 2019 8:23:22 GMT -5
Iran - everyone expects us to invade because it's the Middle East, and therefore our favorite playground.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on May 14, 2019 9:23:09 GMT -5
Going to be Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, China, and Russia all at the same time. What kind of weakling only goes to war with one country?
PS- almost scary that I was going to post my response as a topic yesterday.
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Post by bobathon on May 14, 2019 9:26:16 GMT -5
It has to be Iran. House of Saud just discovered invisible sabotage that HAS to be caused by Iran.
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Post by No. 1 son on May 14, 2019 9:57:00 GMT -5
If I had to guess, I would say Iran, and it won't be the cakewalk that we will be sold on. The ungodly alliance between Israel and the the Saudis wants this, therefore we will comply. We just had our "trigger event" in the hormuz strait, think Gulf of Tonkin incident and we are provoking China, N Korea, Russia, Cuba, and who knows who else. By, the way, after the International Security Assistance and Arms Export Control Act of 1976, we are forbidden to provide support to Israel who is not a signatory to the nookler arms treaty. That is OUR law, and we ignore it. It may be that Trump thinks he needs a war for re election, but this crap has to stop. There's a handful of war criminals in a few countries bringing us to the brink of war.
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Post by minx on May 14, 2019 10:41:20 GMT -5
Yes, but how will this crap stop when there are less than 3 Republicans who have barely enough balls to say "MAYBE we should think about this"? And too many of our fellow citizens don't give a shit.
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Post by No. 1 son on May 14, 2019 10:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by bobathon on May 14, 2019 11:05:51 GMT -5
Which is why we'd be in precisely the same situations across the board if someone else, anyone else, were prednisent, with a completely different set of advisors. Everyone, simply everyone, is exactly the same in every way that matters.
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Post by No. 1 son on May 14, 2019 11:27:58 GMT -5
No, what this means is that you have no concept of how fundamentally corrupt our system has become, or you wouldn't say stuff like that.
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Post by bobathon on May 14, 2019 11:35:10 GMT -5
In what way am I mistaken, helper?
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on May 14, 2019 12:30:42 GMT -5
Cruisin for a bruisin.
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Post by bobathon on May 14, 2019 12:45:37 GMT -5
Look, I see a meme that says the two parties are substantively the same. But when I point that out, I get a somewhat politer version of "you're stupid".
So apparently the meme (and perhaps its poster) aren't communicating well. Is that supposed to be my fault? What's that meme supposed to mean, if not "the parties are really the same"?
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Post by sipowitz86 on May 14, 2019 13:01:24 GMT -5
I just want to point out that that venn diagram was made by progressive leftists. Larry, feel the Bern (or wage war for Warren), =D.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on May 14, 2019 16:22:11 GMT -5
I have spoken my peace and counted to three.
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Post by bobathon on May 14, 2019 17:25:24 GMT -5
Trump told us years ago he thinks wars help election. Iran will be bad. It's a big place, with a big military. But someone isn't a war hero candidate yet, and the PNAC influencers have ever had their eye on Iran. It would be really a bad idea to war there. So, probably Iran.
The whole Venezuela project looks to be falling apart. Low energy. Still, it's an opportunity to bully, so you never know. If I were a gambler, I'd say Iran. Like a baby, in about 9 months?
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Post by No. 1 son on May 14, 2019 17:34:27 GMT -5
Mr. Sipowitz, I probably will vote that way, if it materializes of which I am doubtful. I believe he might well carry try to out his promises, and challenge the NSA, the pentagon and military contractors, Israel and the Saudis, the Federal Reserve, stop aggressive US wars of aggression, provide free college tuition and medicare for all ( which could mean cutting war spending and taking in the pharmaceutical industries and the AMA and insurance companies), and guide us forward in our new green deal ( no corporate deals made there is there). I don't think he will be given the opportunity, though, the media is already telling us Uncle Joe is our guy, he will certainly carry the message forward. Still, I would vote for him, if just to watch the show. All the choice I have.
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Post by No. 1 son on May 15, 2019 6:36:27 GMT -5
Bernie says the right things, he says a lot of things. They all promise free this and that, prosperity, and puppy dog kisses. He is also a huge supporter of Israel, which would obfuscate things, but it boils down to what you think he would try to do and what he would actually tye/succeed in accomplishing. It still holds more promise than anything else creeping on the scene.
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Post by bobathon on May 15, 2019 7:08:49 GMT -5
Holding promise is based only on the info the Overlords allow you to see.
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Post by No. 1 son on May 15, 2019 8:01:07 GMT -5
Very astute and informative. Do you have 4 or 5 cut and paste zingers like that, or are they all spontaneous gems of insight?
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Post by bobathon on May 15, 2019 8:19:36 GMT -5
How about a picture that doesn't communicate what I want it to?
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Post by No. 1 son on May 15, 2019 10:48:18 GMT -5
More chips in the pot. We will respond, as planned. Just like in the six day war, when evil forces torpedoed and strafed survivors on the USS Liberty in 1967. Of course the attacker in that case was Israel, and it was supposed to be blamed on Egypt, but some of the crew lived.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on May 15, 2019 14:37:19 GMT -5
I heard dear leader yesterday running his fat pie hole about the attack plan being fake news and I swear to Christ without taking a breath confirming it.
We have the most ignorant jackass in the world with the football and he has fired all the adults that kept it away from him.
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Post by sipowitz86 on May 15, 2019 14:44:32 GMT -5
He is also a huge supporter of Israel Bernie is far more critical of Israel than 99% of folks in DC, and especially of our military support for them. Of course, Larry, you can vote however you want, it's your right. I just goad a bit because so many of the things we all agree on about the failures of our government are often some of the left's biggest planks/platforms. It could also be true that your preferred libertarian stances on some of these issues will creep their way into major planks/platforms on the right, but as of yet I don't really see that happening like we've seen the last couple years on the left. The Tea Party movement claimed to be that kind of movement, but it ended up just being a front for Christian theocracy to sneak into our state houses and capitols.
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