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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 25, 2019 9:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by minx on Jun 25, 2019 12:27:55 GMT -5
I don't know. While I'm sure he knew the little girl was in the car, I doubt he was aiming for her, but more likely her mom.
And this shit happens all. the. time.
Guy likes girl. Guy flirts with girl. Girl clearly says she's not interested, so guy feels it's his 'right' to hurt her or get revenge on her for rejecting him.
Yeah, it's not all men, but it's still a hell of a lot of them. And I almost never hear their fellow menfolk calling them out and telling them to stop being obnoxious shitheads either.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 25, 2019 15:04:52 GMT -5
Why would you doubt that? The second he fired the weapon was the second he became responsible for every person in the vehicle. That's how it works. He obviously likes playing real life and death games with his guns, as evidenced by this and at least one other incident. Without question he's either already killed someone or will kill someone in the future, because he has a classic murderous mindset and has exercised it no fewer than 2 times. The rejected caller is only a catalyst to a much larger issue. He should be neutralized, one way or another. I vote for the axe.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 25, 2019 15:14:11 GMT -5
Responsible gun owner until he wasn't. Happens every. single. day.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 25, 2019 15:55:27 GMT -5
How do you know he was ever a responsible gun owner?
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 25, 2019 16:03:29 GMT -5
wellsaidfred. He was never a responsible anything, this macho revolution is not good.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 25, 2019 16:05:15 GMT -5
All gun owners are presumed responsible. If they weren't, owning one wouldn't be a right.
I mean, it's not like a requirement that anything wrt use or possession be well-regulated or anything. The Constitutional Originalists pulled that out.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 25, 2019 16:51:12 GMT -5
Waiter! Can you bring me a bottle of weaksauce?
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Post by bobathon on Jun 25, 2019 16:55:32 GMT -5
Everyone is presumed to be a responsible-enough gun owner.
Happy?
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 25, 2019 17:02:30 GMT -5
Not how it works Bob. Rethink it.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 25, 2019 17:04:00 GMT -5
Rethink which? Several concepts are in play there.
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Post by minx on Jun 25, 2019 17:10:30 GMT -5
I'm not saying this scum shouldn't rot in jail for the rest of his miserable life, just that the only reason this is getting attention is because he killed a child rather than the child's mother.
And the only reason he attacked anyone was because this woman had the gall to say no to him.
And that happens all the time - men who are all sweet until you say you're not interested.
That's one of the reasons why we try to go everywhere in pairs, even to the bathroom - cause you can't be too careful.
And as I noted earlier - not all men, but way too many of them.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 25, 2019 18:21:48 GMT -5
Yes' it is true,why do men act out like that? We mean well. link |
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Post by minx on Jun 26, 2019 7:31:58 GMT -5
I know you're joking around, but I am very serious about this.
Friend in another state just found out that her ex escaped from jail - he had been allowed to go on a work crew (even though he has 8 years left on his sentence for assaulting her and putting her in the hospital), and walked away. She's waiting for him to come and find her (she has moved more than once since this all happened, and has a court order so her address and contact information can't be released without her consent).
Police said there's really nothing they can do, and suggested that perhaps she could leave town for a bit. It's really scary shit.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 26, 2019 9:56:37 GMT -5
And to think, some of us don't want her to have the option to protect herself. Because I inevitably, she'll become a bad guy.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 26, 2019 11:06:27 GMT -5
It doesn't work like that. Rethink it, jeez.
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 26, 2019 11:12:26 GMT -5
The last 2 years swmbo was working she had a meter reader that she hired, and at first he was a good employee. He later got involved with one of those little disgruntled groups that exist everywhere, and they convinced her that wife was why he had troubles He didn't have any troubles but they convinced him that he did. He was a tranny and started to wear his county uniform while working at the pizza place near here, and she told him that was not allowed and showed it to him in the personnel manual, which he had signed. No reprimands just a heads up. Anyway, he quit work, just left with no notice, and was working for a company that furnishes workers for flag and road control on highway projects.
One day another meter reader came to her and said this individual had asked him where to buy a gun, he was going to shoot her and mentioned her by name. She went to upper management to get him barred from the building but they never even answered her. So we went to see a stafford detective, and he interviewed the witness, and decided to visit the perp. He was a felon, and could not legally have a firearm but I don't think people like him are bound as much as we would like. He told the guy that if anything at all happened to her, guess who is going to be looked at? I think it straightened out the whole bunch of asshats, and the guy died last year. He was perfectly capable of anything, but so is everyone.
The only other time I felt she was in danger is when we were just married and she worked for the telephone co in Woodbridge as a 411 operator. The union went on strike, and she went to work because we had bills to pay. Some shop stewards were threatening her with serious injuries, and I sat outside the office for more than 1 day with a shotgun in the VW, until the strike was called off. You just never know what's going to make people snap.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 26, 2019 13:05:57 GMT -5
Why can't a felon have a gun?
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Post by minx on Jun 26, 2019 14:17:46 GMT -5
And to think, some of us don't want her to have the option to protect herself. Because I inevitably, she'll become a bad guy. I hear what you're saying, but at the same time, she shouldn't need to have to tote a gun around with her 24/7 when this asshat more than proved that he wanted her dead. I believe she does have a CCP now, but at the same time, she said that it made her nervous carrying any weapon (even mace or a taser) because it was making her feel paranoid and she was beginning to get afraid to just go out and about. |
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Post by No. 1 son on Jun 26, 2019 15:34:36 GMT -5
Minx, no she shouldn't. You can't depend on help from anyone, because by the time the cops get there whatever is going to happen has already happened. You not only have the right to protect yourself and family, you have a responsibility to.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 26, 2019 15:54:02 GMT -5
Well come on, we all know that crap from the numerous running gun battles we all have, every day. Oh look out! pew pew. That was a close one.
Why can't a felon have a firearm?
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 26, 2019 18:29:17 GMT -5
I thought about it
And
I stand by my statement.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 26, 2019 19:02:06 GMT -5
Me too.
Why can't a felon have a firearm?
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 26, 2019 19:22:54 GMT -5
Bob, I can't see anywhere in minxs post that identifies the husband threatening or attempting to kill her with a gun specifically, nor does it suggest the wife is a felon. So I'm unmoved. Perhaps you and I are talking about different posts?
I stand by my statement. Some people want to take away her right to protect herself and by extension defend herself from an iminent threat to her life. Why? Because she might become a bad guy.
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Post by bobathon on Jun 27, 2019 3:05:17 GMT -5
The carpenter sees every problem as a nail to be hammered.
We are probably talking different posts. Why can't a felon have a gun? Don't they deserve self protection (Self defense is not the actual reason we have a 2nd Amendment, self defense is a recently invented justification, counter to the explicitly stated reason for the 2nd. We love our guns, we'll justify them forever, no matter what.).
Felons can't have guns because they have shown themselves to not be responsible enough, as had been previously presumed. Maybe that's not the Constitutional intent, I don't see where that "right" is revokable, but it is how it works.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jun 27, 2019 9:03:27 GMT -5
Uh huh.
Do you think felons should be able to vote?
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Post by bobathon on Jun 27, 2019 10:20:42 GMT -5
Sure. Why not?
Not responsible enough to be trusted with pointy pointy votes?
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