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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 20, 2019 14:41:45 GMT -5
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Post by No. 1 son on Aug 20, 2019 16:23:00 GMT -5
Looks like the charge is "making a threat"? It's going to get interesting. Look for the Excitable Boy Prevention Act soon, enabling more crackdown on speech and much more cop predictive enforcement.  |
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Post by minx on Aug 20, 2019 16:35:48 GMT -5
So the name was fake. Was there an actual person by that name attending that school?
Too many people are doxxing (publishing addresses and phone numbers and encouraging others to harass and threaten that person) or swatting (calling in fake 911 calls saying that someone is ready to shoot up all creation at the victim's address).
It's not a joke or harmless prank. So if this kid was posting something while posing as a real student at the school, I have absolutely no sympathy. None.
If he was using his real name, it starts becoming a question of where the line gets drawn - too many shooters had red flags everywhere that weren't reported, and if they were the threat wasn't taken seriously.
OTOH, when my eldest was in 1st grade and we asked her what she would do if someone cut in front of her in the cafeteria line, her reply was "Kill them". So at what point do you say this is just an immature kid acting out, and when do you say it's a real threat?
And whether you like it or not Larry, it does go back to guns - is there one in the house, and how well is it secured? If there isn't one, how much would it take for a kid to get their hands on one?
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Post by No. 1 son on Aug 20, 2019 17:05:25 GMT -5
I don't like it, if you are saying all problems go back to guns. I think this is reacting in a political way to something that may or not be a problem. I'm not sure what the district attorney is striving for here, but arresting a high school kid for talking in a chat room, like we are doing, seems to be a very poor choice if they might have interviewed him and his family, figured out what's going on. Maybe that's how they see it, prevent something while investigating. Looked a little staged to me. I would not like to see this as the norm, and I very seriously doubt that any real psychos would be so easy to detect. It does, to the voters, seem like someone's doing something.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 20, 2019 17:30:27 GMT -5
The video identifies the source of the problem. As I've said before, throw the whole bloodline in prison. But I would settle for the kid and the parents. In fact, I'd throw child neglect/endangerment charges at them automatically. Watch how quick half this bullshit stops.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 20, 2019 17:35:42 GMT -5
Larry, your logic does not compute. This goes back way before internet was in everyone's hand. Remember bomb threats in school? What happened when they were caught? And ff to now, does a pedo have to actually abduct, assault, murder a kid they've been working online before you are comfortable with the level of dents in the tin foil? No. That ain't how it works nor should it.
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Post by No. 1 son on Aug 21, 2019 6:33:54 GMT -5
We still have kids threatening schools, that hasn't changed, they just don't call them bomb threats, now they're online threats. I see what you are saying, poor or non existent parenting, possibly enabling. All that ratting out each other seems to be a good thing, but think of how the "enhanced" police powers would likely to evolve. Right now the feebs are labelling just about anyone that doesn't totally agree with the establishment narrative a likely terrerrist, and there you are. link . The urgency to "do something" is great, but we must think this through, because once you turn over power like this to authority, especially ours, it is usually abused and is irreversible. Bad parenting is getting to be pretty much the norm now, creating a lot of offenders. Do you think the state would do better? |
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Post by bobathon on Aug 21, 2019 6:42:40 GMT -5
That's rich coming from someone who blasted antifa.
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Post by No. 1 son on Aug 21, 2019 8:23:35 GMT -5
The video identifies the source of the problem. As I've said before, throw the whole bloodline in prison. I think we may be headed that way. We may have to treat the whole "youth" problem with RICO laws, like some gang activity, etc. I don't care for it, it's like cutting off your leg to get rid of that toe that just won't act right, but there you go. |
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 21, 2019 8:38:36 GMT -5
Just 3 little boys playing video games whose mothers/grandmothers will plead "not my child". I'm sure there were absolutely no signs. And even if there were, you don't want the authorities acting on them anyway.
What we have here is a failure to cmmunucate. Some men you just can't reach so you get what we had here today. Which is how he wants it, well, he gets it.
Now get your dirt out of boss' hole.
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Post by bobathon on Aug 21, 2019 9:10:42 GMT -5
You guys are tracking right along with Dear Leader's desire for indefinite detention sans charges. Start with the browns at the border, then the ones in CONUS.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 21, 2019 9:17:23 GMT -5
At least I'm not Miss Daisy.
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Post by No. 1 son on Aug 21, 2019 9:29:05 GMT -5
And even if there were, you don't want the authorities acting on them anyway. Not entirely true. I dislike these punks as much as you do, I just don't have the faith in the DOJ that you apparently do do do this without prejudice or to execute without being politically motivated. |
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 21, 2019 9:46:47 GMT -5
I'm less concerned about that and more concerned with the accumulating body count while we dick around with complaint boxes and tinfoil hats.
Like my uncle used to say "it's time to do something, even if it's wrong".
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 21, 2019 10:21:55 GMT -5
PS. I don't see this as political. Putting politics into it is part of the problem. It means that no matter what you say or do is met by exactly 50% of society being pissed off. You can't buy a fucking chicken sandwich without it.
Also, news flash, the state will do what it wants. It's been doing it for centuries. Isn't it just a little disingenuous to guard your cabinet full of guns with 2nd Amendment claims of having the means to fight against tyranny? Here we are 240 some odd years later, having never actually had a government of the people, for the people, or by the people, more than a few despots in the White House, the so called theft of our earnings (taxes), limitations placed on what type of weapons we are permitted to have (no Rambo, you can't have SAMS or small yield nukes to go after the HOA), the surviellance and data collection that would make Orwell himself blush, and countless other actual threats and assaults to the liberties promised us and yet little to no organized effort (with OKC being the one possible exception) to turn those guns on the tyranny. My question is what will it actually take other than the act of them coming for our guns? Short answer even?
So excuse me if I'm not really sympathizing with those concerns about slippery slopes and not giving the gov room to exploit us and our phony rights. All we really have is just enough rope to hang ourselves with and that's by design. Always has been, always will be.
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Post by No. 1 son on Aug 21, 2019 15:59:35 GMT -5
I'm not sure we're on the same page, but maybe the same book. I can speculate on state's motives because according to you I have my foil hat on. Fair enough, and while you're contemplating the push to prolice the masses, keep in mind that this admin is pushing Congress to make the USA Freedom Act (nasa spying on us) permanent. That fits somewhere in there along with the corrupt fisa court. I know we don't have self determination here anymore, but at least we can know how we went under. |
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Post by bobathon on Aug 21, 2019 19:52:14 GMT -5
What "this administration"? Same winner and losers regardless of uniparty branch, isn't that right? It's all a foregone conclusion. Inevitable due to ages past.
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Post by minx on Aug 22, 2019 12:37:40 GMT -5
I think that social media as a whole is more of a problem than we think it is.
Kids are getting on it at younger and younger ages - not just things like FB and Insta, but multi-player video games like Fortnite.
And parents aren't restricting the access either.
So first off, kids are losing social skills - when you don't interact with someone face to face on a regular basis, it's not a good thing.
And recess and unstructured after-school activity is almost non-existant now, so the opportunity to socialize there is gone.
And as we can see on this board alone, it's a lot easier to say stuff and curse someone out from the privacy of your keyboard then it is to do it in person.
And it's a lot easier to get worked up about something when you have a bunch of anonymous friends to validate your viewpoint.
Meanwhile, mom and dad don't know a lot about how all of this works. So they do a really crappy job of monitoring everything.
I don't know that we can blame it all on bad parenting though - lots and lots of parents are trying, but the rules seem to be changing faster and faster.
Probably the best thing that a parent can do is to just say no in terms of screentime and phones.
We had desktop computers that stayed out in a family room, and no phones until HS. Of course, back then in the dark ages, smartphones had just started coming out too.
But I still see no need for someone under HS age to have their own smartphone. I guess I'm ollllld!
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Post by bobathon on Aug 22, 2019 13:00:45 GMT -5
Primary purpose is now tracking citizen movement.
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Post by minx on Aug 22, 2019 13:32:06 GMT -5
Then toss your phone in the trash.
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Post by bobathon on Aug 22, 2019 14:14:19 GMT -5
I didn't say I was against being tracked. Just what it's become.
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