Liz

[Dave's Not Here Man]

OUT

[minx]

Yeah, I'm not surprised. I think her early gaffes in the campaign cost her big time. Unfortunately, people aren't ready for a woman president yet.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

I don't know about that. As undesirable as Hillary was to a lot of people, she still managed to win the popular vote by a couple million votes.

Your guess is as good as mine about why Warren didn't get any traction given the fact that she nailed it on most policy stuff including details on how to accomplish them. Doesn't make a while lot of sense that she finished 3rd in her own state.

[minx]

I honestly think it was her attitude (for lack of a better term)

In the initial speeches of hers that I listened to, there didn't seem to be a lot of warmth or empathy. So she was saying the right things, but it didn't completely sound like she meant them (if that makes sense). It didn't seem like it would resonate with the average person. And while it's really, really sad, she included too much detail.

That's where I think she screwed up. She should have stuck to her talking points, given a broad overview of her plan and not as many details. When people pushed her on how it was going to be paid for, she should have been just as broad as the others have been too. In fact, I feel she should have said that the details were very complex, but she'd be happy to hold a town hall type of meeting, where all the candidates could put forward their health care plan, along with the details of how they would pay for it.

I do feel that out of all the people running, she was the one who had spent the most time thinking things out in terms of policy, and that she was the only one who had an actual plan with steps to enact it. Regardless of who the nominee is, I hope they take advantage of her expertise.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

It's gives me a chuckle when people say things about her personality, mannerisms, or her vibe. It runs the gamut from the cold and unassociated to the overly-sincere. 🤦‍♀️


Exactly the same as when Hillary ran... sans the overly sincere part but I digress.


Yet seldom if ever did we or do we hear the same observations/perceptions about the male candidates.

[minx]

Very true for the most part, but remember back in the day when people voted for Bush the lesser simply because he seemed like a guy you'd want to have a beer with.
And Romney was out because he was too wooden.

But it is worse for women.

[bobathon]

She lost because vagina.