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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Apr 29, 2020 10:49:27 GMT -5
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Post by minx on Apr 30, 2020 9:30:03 GMT -5
100% Trump. Gives the Bernie Bros an alternative to vote for so they can say they didn't sully their hands by compromising and voting for Biden (because they can't admit that they didn't get out the vote for their man). And it gives the No More Trump Republicans an out as well - they can vote for Amash and say that at least they didn't vote for Trump again.
I'm all for letting anyone who wants to run to take a stab at it, but it's getting tiring having these jackasses with more money than sense trying to jump in at the last minute. Rather than running a vanity campaign, how about using that cash to run ads (or hold 'campaign' events) that will educate people on some basic issues and show them how to register, when to vote and where.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Apr 30, 2020 11:12:45 GMT -5
My first inclination is that it serves one purpose and one purpose only; to take away votes. There would likely be a Libertarian candidate anyway, just as there will likely be a Green candidate. Whether they make it on to the ballot or not is another thing.
But I don't have any idea if it takes away votes from one or the other, or both, and not even real sure there would be enough to change the outcome from what I believe is a total no-brainer this November. Unfortunately, no-brainer seems to mean something different than my context.
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Post by minx on Apr 30, 2020 13:55:38 GMT -5
Well, I wish that Biden would get off his ass and do SOMETHING.
Starting with the woman who is accusing him of assault. Is she credible - who knows? But her accusations do deserve an acknowledgement if not an investigation.
Joe needs to speak up, say he didn't do this (I'd be shocked if he said "Yeah, I did it - who cares?"), and at least say that he's like things investigated in full.
Yes, any statute of limitations has probably expired but surely there's a way that they can both tell their side of the story in a neutral forum and call witnesses - maybe with an arbitrator or something?
I personally think there are a ton of holes in her story, but at the same time, a lot of people thought that there were a ton of holes in Blasey-Ford's story, and the Democrats demanded a full investigation, so we can do no less here.
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Post by k9krap on Apr 30, 2020 16:39:06 GMT -5
Jesse Ventura is angling for the Green Party nomination. I read an opinion piece yesterday surmising that he may have more of an impact than Amash. Maybe the Trumpets would be drawn to him because of his wrestling connections? 🤷🏻
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Post by bobathon on May 2, 2020 4:22:10 GMT -5
Reade's story is way fishier than any of the umpteen accusers of Trump. Weird how the left wing lamestream media is all over it but seems to have forgotten about Dear Leader's sexual assaults. They must really be out to get Trump, eh?
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on May 2, 2020 9:08:27 GMT -5
I firmly believe that this is a GOP sponsored accusation just like the DNC did to Kavanaugh.
Sexual assault is the new McCarthyism. It's a shame because as usual, the real victims won't be taken seriously when it matters.
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Post by minx on May 2, 2020 13:09:48 GMT -5
Agreed John. Everyone who screams "Why didn't these women say something when it happened?", should be forced to read Chanel Miller's memoir "Know My Name". It's her account of her life during the time period that she was raped by Brock Turner and what happened afterwards.
Keep in mind that she was unconscious during the entire assault. Her last memory was of someone taking her picture at a frat party (she was there with her younger sister, and sister's friend) while she was making goofy faces. The next memory is of waking up in the ER.
Yet, Turner was able to present a defense of consensual sex, saying that Miller 'enjoyed' the encounter. This despite her having absolutely no memory of the event itself, or that the two witnesses who tackled Turner (and testified that he was running away from the scene after they saw him), said that Miller was unconscious, and stayed with her until the police and paramedics arrived. And of course, the police and EMTs also said she was unconscious too.
But he said it was consensual, his daddy had money, and he was a rich white kid with an 'unlimited less' future. It took 4 years to get a conviction. FOUR YEARS. For what should have been an open and shut case. Because she had the nerve to go to a party and have some drinks. Oh, and wear a short dress that was appropriate to go to a party in. Never mind, that at least 4 other women said that Turner was trying to feel them up and kiss them at the party even after they told him to leave them alone.
In rape or assault, it's ALWAYS about the victim. ALWAYS. Unless of course, the victim is white and her attacker is black, or the attacker really, really looks like a total skeeze. But we all know that nice white boys would never rape a woman, right?
I think Reade's story is full of holes. But I also think that it deserves a full investigation. And I think that if the Democrats are smart they'll take the high road on this - say they don't feel her allegations are true, but they want them fully investigation by a team of archivists, historians and criminal investigators so nothing in those archives is accidentally missed. And they want the people who will do this selected within two weeks, and of course everything will be made public - Ms. Reade is welcome to invite qualified investigators of her own to work with the ones selected. The one term that will be required from all investigators is to not comment on the case or release information until the investigation is complete. During that time period, Mr. Biden will not be commenting on these allegations, and would ask that his supporters do the same.
We all know that will never happen, but once again I can dream.....
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Post by bobathon on May 5, 2020 16:46:41 GMT -5
She keeps changing it, day to day. I agree, it needs proper investigation, but seems fishy to me e.g. when she filed with DC cops, she left out any name.
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Post by k9krap on May 5, 2020 16:49:18 GMT -5
I read something about how she’s a Bernie supporter and that’s why she waited until Bernie lost Michigan to come forward.
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