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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 9, 2020 10:25:06 GMT -5
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Post by k9krap on Nov 10, 2020 18:57:42 GMT -5
Just the fact that 45 and his minions will be handling the initial distribution of this vaccine is scary. Distribution of a vaccine to an entire population during a pandemic is a challenging undertaking. You know he’s going to want to give the bulk of the work to his buddies in the private sector so they can rake in billions from the taxpayers. And he’s going to fuck it up. Bigly. Some of the vaccines that are going through trials now are RNA-based, as is the Pfizer one. It requires storage at -80 degrees or something, which most vaccination facilities can’t currently support. It may also require other new or different processes, since other vaccines that we’ve been using are not RNA based. And a huge question is how long immunity lasts after vaccination. Immunity to the coronavirus that causes a common cold only lasts about 3 months. Questions like these are some of the reasons that vaccine trials normally take years.
So, yeah, I would wait until the clown show leaves and everything settles down before I even consider getting this vaccine. But then, I’m very content holing up in my house for the foreseeable future.
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Post by bobathon on Nov 11, 2020 3:51:34 GMT -5
I can't say I'll be impressed by an FDA approval.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 11, 2020 11:07:20 GMT -5
Provided it goes through the same process as any other new vaccine.... and/or fulfills the requirements for "fast tracking"... and the Faucists say it's good to go... I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
As minx pointed out, this particular vaccine is not as simple as going to CVS and getting it. My understanding is that pretty much only hospitals have the ability to store and deliver in house currently. And that you have to get 2 of them for it to be max-effective. So if and when this is approved it would stand to reason that hospital/healthcare workers will be the first to get it. Which should help instill confidence in it, as long as there are no widespread problems.
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Post by minx on Nov 11, 2020 12:01:44 GMT -5
My concern is still over testing.
So one group gets the real deal, and the other gets a placebo.
But how are they proving the effectiveness - are these people actually being exposed directly to the virus, or are we measuring antibodies?
And how diverse is the group who has volunteered to test? Are they all middle-class white folks with good insurance who have kept up with their yearly physicals?
Or do we have people from all income brackets, all races and genders and all sorts of health?
Because my worry is that we're testing it, but not on the right groups - so I might be perfectly protected by this stuff, but someone who has asthma or diabetes may not be.
And let's be realistic, the people who we NEED to be protected, are the ones least likely to be able to access health care - store clerks, nursing home assistants, home health workers, mechanics, and (believe it or not) hospital workers (lots of lower level positions, like orderlies and scribes aren't given the same level of PPE that doctors and nurses get, but they interact with patients too)
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 11, 2020 12:10:43 GMT -5
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