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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 15, 2021 10:42:41 GMT -5
How anyone can support this idiot wannabe is beyond me. www.nbcnews.com/news/rittenhouses-mother-was-life-shooting-victims-rcna5563There's mom, saying he ain't do nuffin wrong. He was the victim. I don't have any problem charging her with all the same crimes just the same as every other enabler and "not my baby" type. Only in America could this be the media shit show that it is, with everyone getting their face on tv including the wackjob judge.
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Post by minx on Nov 15, 2021 11:02:34 GMT -5
You know it!
My baby wanted to attend a protest, so I drove him over state lines with an illegal firearm. Cause he was an EMT and wanted to help people. Oh and if that man had run away, he'd be alive now, so it's his fault that he made my son shoot him.
Jesus wept. OTOH, so did this coward, and I bet those tears get him acquitted.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 15, 2021 11:24:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if acquitted on the murder one charges. The other charges not so much, as they seem to me to be pretty solid imo. That is, if there's not a mistrial.
We really need to take off our "kid gloves" when it comes to this shit and start open hand bitch slapping these people's entire bloodline, both metaphorically and literally. You YOu YOU are responsible for your spawn until they are 18 years of age and we are almost close enough with our laws that if you said make it 21, I'd go along with that also.
I hate to go there but if this was a 17 year old black kid "protecting himself" no amount of wailing on the stand would save his ass from a 2 day trial ending with a couple of life sentences or his attorney having him plead out.
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Post by minx on Nov 15, 2021 14:23:53 GMT -5
If this exact situation involved a Black kid and his mom, we wouldn't be even watching a trial. Kid would have been shot on the spot.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 15, 2021 15:34:19 GMT -5
By the cops he interacted with? Absofuckinlooterly.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 15, 2021 15:36:50 GMT -5
So the weapons charges were dropped by the judge. So much for the no-brainers. when does asteroid bob get here?
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Post by minx on Nov 15, 2021 16:14:35 GMT -5
That judge should totally be removed from the case. He's bending over backwards to kiss that kid's ass.
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Post by k9krap on Nov 15, 2021 19:40:42 GMT -5
That judge should totally be removed from the case. He's bending over backwards to kiss that kid's ass. He has from the start.
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Post by bobathon on Nov 16, 2021 5:15:10 GMT -5
The current trial is for Wisconsin state charges. Crossing borders is a Federal concern, isn't it?
Also, ridiculous defense is ridiculous, may even suck seed.
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Post by minx on Nov 16, 2021 9:40:29 GMT -5
Nah. I don't fault the kid's defense. It's their job to do everything in their power to keep their client out of jail, and they're doing a damn good job right now.
Prosecutor has been blowing it to a degree - he knows the judge isn't on his side and yet has done stupid stuff like asking the kid why he exercised his 5th amendment rights at the police station. It's your constitutional right not to talk if you don't want to, and it can't be used against you (as in 'So why did you take the 5th?'). Better question would have been -'Okay, so you turned yourself in to the police because you knew it was the right thing to do. Did you tell them your version of events at that time?'. And when Rittenhouse said no, just pause for a while and say 'Okay. Moving on...' Let the jury mull on the fact that he was Mr. Civic Duty, but didn't want to talk to the police about what happened once he was in custody. Hmmmm.
And hey, defense got the gun charge dropped, didn't they? And the jury is still out, so I'd say they're debating on what charge they can come back with that will say 'Naughty boy!', so it appears justice was done. Cause if they thought it was cut and dried, they'd be back already.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 16, 2021 11:52:28 GMT -5
The current trial is for Wisconsin state charges. Crossing borders is a Federal concern, isn't it?Also, ridiculous defense is ridiculous, may even suck seed. Not to my knowledge. The only way I can think of it being a federal would be if he were a convicted felon or perhaps trying to sell the weapon. But full disclosure I really can't say I'm sure. Some states have like these transfer laws and what they call reciprocal, I think? IOW, if I show my VA ccp and driver license to a MD state trooper, he would not be able to charge me with his states' laws regarding carry or transfer. But if I get pulled over again in NY, if that shit isn't unloaded and secured.... my dick is short. Then again, I'm not 17 yo and my mother driving me across state lines to allow me to act as an untrained unlicensed unpermiited armed security guard not employed by the business he was intending to shoot people for.
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Post by minx on Nov 16, 2021 14:01:41 GMT -5
OMG, did you not hear his testimony?? He was there to HELP! He had his first aid kit with him! He was a helper! Helper!
And thank God he had a gun, cause those evil rioting thugs would have killed him - they could have run away when they saw he had a gun and he wouldn't have shot them. Scout's honor.
At least other moms usually say that they didn't raise their kid to be that way when they commit a major crime - this scumbag's mom not only raised him to be a killer, but is damn proud of him.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 17, 2021 11:00:21 GMT -5
I've caught bits and pieces. Yeah, I heard he took his first aid kit. Whatta humanitarian that one. A 17 year old wanna be. George Ffucking Zimmerman Jr with bandaids in his pocket. I love the pic of him balling on the stand. Man enough to grab an AR15 and run into a riot but a giant pussy when suffering the consequences of his decision and actions. Hopefully it makes a good meme for years to come.
Guilty Guilty Guilty and Guilty some more. Mom should get to spend some time working on her defense as well.
I would have been thrown out of the jury pool immediately. Now if I were a US Senator, I can have me mind made up before hearing the evidence and announce my verdict before the trial even starts, and oh yeah, I can collude with the defense!
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Post by minx on Nov 17, 2021 11:54:35 GMT -5
Supposedly the jury has asked for more information on the judge's instructions, specifically regarding what self-defense means. Doesn't bode well to me.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 17, 2021 12:59:57 GMT -5
Self defense is straightforward. If someone attacks you, and you defend yourself.... like I said simple. However there are also things called nuance, mitigating circumstances, and malice of forethought. These are the material facts that must not be disregarded because even if he was in fact defending himself, he made the conscious choice to become a part of a riot. Had someone killed him, they would not be afforded the same defensive considerations. You can bet the whole deposit box on that.
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Post by minx on Nov 17, 2021 13:31:48 GMT -5
Oh, like if the guy he wounded had pulled the trigger rather than lowering his gun, that guy would have been hung out to dry?
Say it isn't so....
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Post by bobathon on Nov 17, 2021 16:40:56 GMT -5
We all know why he was there. He wanted to play Charles Bronson.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 17, 2021 16:54:18 GMT -5
He wanted to play the role that rallyx2 was supposed to be in.
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Post by k9krap on Nov 17, 2021 22:19:17 GMT -5
No! Please no double rally!
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 19, 2021 13:39:16 GMT -5
Acquitted.
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Post by minx on Nov 19, 2021 13:46:27 GMT -5
Not shocked - things were rigged in his favor from the get-go.
He's going to become the poster child for the NRA - a scared teenager who killed two people and wounded a third because he panicked and thought they were going to take his gun. One that he never fired before and didn't know how to use. Second Amendment For The Win!
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Post by k9krap on Nov 19, 2021 20:23:12 GMT -5
Now all those magats that have been anxious to take their guns out and play have been given a green light. 🥺
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Nov 21, 2021 10:24:09 GMT -5
I honestly had no idea that all of the shooting victims, at least as near as I can tell, were white? Does that change anything? Or does it change everything?
I've always thought using race and hypotheticals were intellectually lazy, fully aware that I've used them often, but I have to say this was an unexpected revelation.
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Post by minx on Nov 21, 2021 12:25:05 GMT -5
Only think it changes was that you can't say Rittenhouse shot them because of their race. He's still a gullible immature child who was in over his head and was terrified. He should have stayed home and watched the coverage on the Tee-Vee with mommy instead.
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Post by k9krap on Nov 23, 2021 3:58:25 GMT -5
I was just thinking about the environment and wondered if rally was still in denial about climate change/global warming.
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