That's even weirder

[Dave's Not Here Man]

The poor and disenfranchised just trying to make a better life for themselves..... by robbing someone else that is poor and disenfranchised.

wset.com/news/local/4-armed-men-steal-food-delivery-drivers-car-in-lynchburg-lynchburg-police-dept-lpd-monsview-place-carjacking


I was listening on the scanner when this call came in last night. The kid that got carjacked was using his mother's car to work doordash or whatever company/s he was delivering for. Not sure if it was a set-up (which happens all the time to these people trying to make whatever kind of living they can) or what. You'd think it would be an easy catch if they had to use the app to order. These motherfuckers can't get shot and taken out of this world fast enough so their momma's can cry on tv about what good boys/daddy's they was. I had a friend that about a month after he moved to Richmond and got a job delivering pizza's got shot in the neck and left to die in his car. Luckily someone reported shots fired and the police/rescue got there in time to save him. 

I guess they should have gotten better/safer jobs. Yeah that's sarcasm if you didn't get it right away.

[minx]

I have to admit that I don't get the scum who rob delivery drivers. It's pretty well known that they never have more than $40 bucks on them, and probably even less if they're driving door dash or the like since people pay by app. And it's not like those drivers are running around in Teslas or anything fancy.

It just pisses me off. And yeah, these are the type of people jails were designed for. Not the kid with an unpaid traffic ticket, or the one with an ounce of weed. People who rob, shoot and harm others.

And yeah, there should be a full and complete investigation so that it's known that ALL of the evidence has been examined before they get locked in for years. But they should be locked away, and locked away for a long time.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

I hate to be such a pessimist but it's very difficult at this point to be positive. Whatever we've been doing hasn't worked for the majority of the people. There are other things that could be done but they won't be and we all know why. Other things that could be done also won't be because it would hold you responsible for raising your kids and answering for their bullshit. No one seems to have a problem with it at the moment for the two white jackass parents of white little asshole that shot up the school. In my opinion, this is exactly what should happen and should be applied routinely. If it were, I'll bet you dollars and donuts the crime rate drops by half or more.


BTW- Last night was a call, about the same time 8pm ish 5 black males ages teens to early 20s wearing dark clothes and dark hoodies robbed a person at gunpoint on a street not too far from where the carjacking occurred. Police were dispatched to "saturate" the area, but to no avail. I'm not sure why this area of the city isn't ALREADY saturated with police 24/7 since it's where the grand majority of the violent crime occurs. And for the life of me these fuckers routinely patrol rt29. Why? They don't have the resources and don't use the ones they have efficiently. I hear dispatchers say things like "there's been a domestic disturbance/assault in holding for a while now". Hmmm. How about every unit that sits on 29 jerking off go sit on Pierce Street and jerk off?

[Dave's Not Here Man]

Oh by the way, I say screw the American experiment. It doesn't have a chance if the human experiment fails, anyway.

[minx]

At this point, I think the only thing that will save us is massive investments in people and services.

And I don't see that happening at all. Which is very sad.

[Dave's Not Here Man]

No it will not and I'll tell you why (even though you probably already know):

Poverty is an enormous industry.




But at the end of the day and as I've repeated abs nauseass.... parents (even the baby daddys hell ESPECIALLY the baby daddys) and guardians should be held responsible for raising their kids and answering for their bullshit.

[minx]

Truth.

[bobathon]

Clearly we need to cut taxes on the wealthy and reduce social services.

[minx]

We can have all the social services in the world Bob, but at some point it does have to come down to individual responsibility as well.

An easy example. I'm an addict. We live in a fantastic society where mental health treatment is accessible and free with no waiting lists. And there are plenty of rehab facilities too.
If I refuse to take action and use those services, then who is responsible?

100% we need better social services and support in our country. 100%. But we also need to instill a sense of personal responsibility into people, and that sense of responsibility has to start with "Don't harm others".

Sadly, we have morphed into a society that says the only way to win is to be cut-throat. It's kill or be killed my friend. And THAT is the crux of the issue. How do we reverse that mentality?

[Dave's Not Here Man]

This is NOT the same incident in the second I mentioned-

www.wsls.com/news/local/2022/02/10/two-injured-two-in-custody-after-armed-robbery-in-lynchburg/


Sure sounds like they could be the same that did the carjacking AND the second incident I mentioned. Two in custody. Brahhh-voooo.

[bobathon]

There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
—Frank Wilhoit

We have centuries of this legacy affecting our daily lives.

[minx]

While we do have centuries of this legacy, and it needs to be acknowledged, we also can't use that as an excuse.

Racism and discrimination are baked into the very fabric of our society. Yet for generations upon generations Black families were strong and intact in the dual faces of racism and poverty.

And there was crime in cities and in the ghettos of cities, but nothing like there is today.

So while we need to confront racism, it's not the sole cause of the breakdowns we're seeing.

And I'm not all that sure that government can fix this either. You can give people all the money in the world, but if they have no values or ethics, will it matter?

[bobathon]

I think it's a lot more complicated than handing out money or demanding people be responsible. What we do is we ensure that poverty endures. And poverty drives crime.
So how do we deal with current crime and also eradicate poverty? We see that mass incarceration does no good. Whatever it would take won't be cheap, but Cheap is our middle name. I mean crikey, we're just talking about $2.13 minimum wage for wait staff. And we dare not even adjust those upper tax increments. So whatever we do, it will be done without any new revenue.

So yeah, like other issues I reckon we will pretend it's always a personal failing, so that we don't have to actually have to deal with our fucked up systems.