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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Sept 8, 2022 9:39:44 GMT -5
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Post by minx on Sept 8, 2022 12:18:30 GMT -5
Okay, I snorted. Loudly.
Was listening to a podcast called 9/12 about the events after the attacks.
The last episode was called 'never forget' where the guy asked people what it was that we all should 'never forget' - turns out 90% of people don't know, and don't really understand anything about what happened expect that we were attacked. The only people who really 'never forgot' were the ones near the epicenters - the rest of the country moved on pretty quickly.
If you want to read an excellent book about 9/11, may I suggest 'The Only Plane in the Sky' - it's an oral history of the day based on the interviews of people, including the ones used in the 9/11 investigation. People like Rumsfeld, Bush's press secretary and others.
One thing that I'll remember from the book is people's recollection of Rumsfeld at the Pentagon. Seems like he was one that had a shining moment on that day - ran back into the Pentagon and was getting people out until the first responders stopped him. And he was truly upset that they wouldn't allow him to help (due to his position as secretary of defense). At that moment, he was an ordinary person reacting to seeing people needing help. And the people who worked with him all said they didn't want to go back into the Pentagon to do briefings and gather information, but since he insisted that he wouldn't hide in a bunker, they all steeled themselves, went to an intact area and got to work. Like Giuliani, he was total scum, but in that one moment, he overcame his limitations and did the right thing.
Back to business - are those stacks the tallest in the world? Otherwise, why would I grab my knife and fork to bring them down?
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Post by k9krap on Sept 8, 2022 19:08:53 GMT -5
I worked with people that died or were severely injured at the Pentagon. I still see the devastation on the face of a young lieutenant when she learned her new husband was killed. So, yeah, too soon.
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Post by minx on Sept 9, 2022 9:33:00 GMT -5
I can't imagine knowing anyone who was injured or died in those attacks never being able to forget that horror ever.
There was a very interesting article in a magazine last year about a famous picture of a waiter who jumped from the towers.
The reporter wanted to know who the person actually was - he had always been portrayed as anonymous.
It was a heart-rending article - the picture itself came from a stream of pictures - as is in the case with many 'action' photos, the photographer pointed his camera and just shot several hundreds of images.
The reporter looked at them one shot at a time and also broke down the violence in the action taken in jumping from that height, as many people seemed to think that this man had chosen a more 'peaceful' exit rather than waiting to be killed by the flames.
It was a very chilling article, and I will never forget that man (he was a waiter at windows on the world, and his family remembered him as a person who was happy, yet determined to work his way up). And I will also never forget what happens when you decide to jump from a great height either.
But I do think that the majority of Americans do have absolutely no idea on what we're all trying not to forget. Because none of them want to remember that a large number of immigrants were in those buildings when they came down. Or the first responders and workers who toiled to find evidence and try to recover bodies have suffered illnesses from the toxic materials at the site. And certainly no one wants to remember that this action caused us to enter a 20+ year war with no end objective, therefore killing thousands of soldiers and god-only-knows how many civilians.
I absolutely will never forget the events of that day and the ones that followed. But sadly, I think that most of my fellow Americans have.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Sept 9, 2022 10:20:54 GMT -5
Hopefully my comments on the article in the op were clear in their intent.
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Post by minx on Sept 9, 2022 10:35:38 GMT -5
The club house at Aquia Harbor was doing one too - Freedom Flounder and Remeber-tinis.
I say we have another 10 years - then the car sales can start.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Sept 9, 2022 10:52:50 GMT -5
Again for people in the way back.... Using these types of events as a opportunity for promotion would be off limits to 99% of businesses and probably not even something most would brew in their heads. JFK Assassination Day, to my knowledge, has not been lent as an opportunity to sell convertibles even after 60 years, right? Given that, one must assume there's no statute of limitations for certain things and I assumed 9/11 would be one of them...... then someone with a cash register and not a lick of sense crossed that line.
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Post by minx on Sept 9, 2022 16:58:40 GMT -5
Well, one would have thought that Memorial Day would be sacred too. In terms of somber occasions, it should be at the top.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Sept 10, 2022 12:35:41 GMT -5
I can be flexible with that one because it wasn't marking a particular event. Saying that we should shut the country down for a day in honor of those in uniform that made the ultimate sacrifice? Sure. The problem is we've bastardized patriotism and sacrifice as I eluded to in a previous post.
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Post by minx on Sept 11, 2022 10:34:31 GMT -5
Truth.
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