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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 27, 2023 11:01:56 GMT -5
Did yall see Moscow Mitch leave the fucking chat yesterday?
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Post by k9krap on Jul 27, 2023 12:44:52 GMT -5
Creepy. The man is ill and has no business holding any office, much less minority leader in the Senate. He’s a perfect example of the need for term limits and possibly age limits.
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Jul 27, 2023 12:55:17 GMT -5
Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 27, 2023 12:55:17 GMT -5
It was the vaccine.
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Jul 27, 2023 13:04:59 GMT -5
Post by k9krap on Jul 27, 2023 13:04:59 GMT -5
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Post by minx on Jul 27, 2023 14:45:22 GMT -5
I read Reich's blog earlier, and it does make sense that it was a mini-seizure. And I have to say that I do agree with him - even though McConnell is a total scumbag, that had to have been terrifying for him and for his family to be watching it happen.
He and Feinstein are clear examples of why there should be an age limit for elected officials and judges.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 27, 2023 15:02:01 GMT -5
The damage he's done to this country is profound and if there is a God, he gets to visit with him soon.
/ Can you even begin to imagine what it would take to get another Constitutional Amendment at this point? And that's exactly why term limits/retirement will never be a thing. The much sadder commentary is that if 2/3 of the country were to vote on it, I'm pretty certain it would pass easily.
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Post by k9krap on Jul 27, 2023 15:10:16 GMT -5
There’s quite a few things that are happening in Congress that the majority of the country would vote against. Tuberville’s stalemate on military promotions, Medicare/social security elimination, abortion/birth control/women’s health, are just a few.
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Post by minx on Jul 27, 2023 17:37:52 GMT -5
I suspect most Americans want things like this:
Access to a good education for their children Decent jobs with the chance to advance A safe home and neighborhood Being able to afford retirement
Most couldn't give a shit about trans kids getting gender affirmative care, letting folks have access to free birth control, allowing women to get a safe abortion, or eliminating books from schools and libraries.
Unfortunately, until people wake up and realize that the Republicans are distracting their followers from what's really important we'll get nowhere.
Oh, and I should add that the followers of 'progressive' Democrats need to get with the program too. Most people don't want a handout - they want what the rest of us want, which is the ability to feel like you are contributing something to society (whether by working a job or helping in the community). And they want to know that if they get sick or reach the end of their working career they'll be able to afford to keep a roof over their head and groceries on the table.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 28, 2023 10:47:11 GMT -5
They had to tell Diane Feinstein what to say during a committee hearing yesterday because she was clearly in the wrong group home. I mean come on people, enough is enough.
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Jul 28, 2023 12:37:03 GMT -5
Post by minx on Jul 28, 2023 12:37:03 GMT -5
They want to die in office. Ridiculous.
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Post by k9krap on Jul 30, 2023 15:04:48 GMT -5
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Post by minx on Jul 31, 2023 10:02:21 GMT -5
We truly need to focus on age limits, not term limits. After all, you need to be at least 35 to run for president. Why not say you can't serve in federal office past 70? Same for judges - 70 is plenty enough time.
Go retire and do something else if you're still mentally alert and spry. Most people in private industry don't get to work past 70, so why should they?
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Jul 31, 2023 12:32:12 GMT -5
Term limits are every bit as important and I'm going to have to disagree and say that's where the focus should be (although we should be able to focus on two important things at the same time, no?). No one in our elected government should hold a seat for more than x years for so many really good reasons. For me that x would be 12. So two terms for Senators, 6 terms for reps. To me, that will go leagues beyond aging someone out that is probably as fit for the job as most anyone else. And it's discriminatory.
If we can do THREE things at once, I'll add banning any current or former elected government official from starting or participating in organized lobbying with or for political action groups.
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Jul 31, 2023 14:08:35 GMT -5
Post by minx on Jul 31, 2023 14:08:35 GMT -5
I do get the age discrimination thing, but at what point do we say that someone should step aside for the younger crowd? Too many politicians have egos bigger than all outdoors and refuse to admit that they're no longer up to the rigors of the job - after all, *they* feel fine! For a prime example, look no further than all of the hearings on social media and privacy/misinformation. At least 85% of the senators and congressmen on those committees barely knew how to log in to their laptop, let alone what Facebook was. Do we want people who can no longer keep up with basic technology in charge of overseeing it? But I do agree that it will have a trickle down effect (unlike tax cuts), where private employers will let go of anyone who is 70 on the basis that they are 'too old', even if they're the greeter at WM. And I don't think we're capable of doing even one thing anymore, let alone 3
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Post by k9krap on Aug 1, 2023 16:00:47 GMT -5
I don’t agree with age limits/required retirement. There are many examples of those that have or are performing well at an advanced age. Mice Jagger just turned 80. Nancy Pelosi is 80-something, I believe. And, I don’t think Biden has faltered because of his age. He has always been gaffe-prone. Maybe requiring a test for dementia starting at a certain age is the answer? The questions are simple, e.g., drawing a clock set to 11:10. But I don’t think Dianne Feinstein could pass.
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Post by minx on Aug 7, 2023 12:25:31 GMT -5
I think that at some point elected officials need to step aside and let new blood come in. We have members of congress and the senate who can barely operate a cell phone let alone a computer. Do we want them creating laws about technology even though they're mentally cognitive? Same with federal judges. And even though we could say they have to pass a cognitive test, do you trust that the doctor they see won't just say they passed? After all, many presidents have had a clean bill of health, only to have an operation a few months later for something that would have been caught in an exam. And as we all know Trump 'passed' with flying colors as having the health of a man at least 20 years younger! So I say have an age limit - 75 and you're done and can retire or move on to a second career. If you look at private industry, there are few people in jobs with major responsibilities at 65, so why should we say that our federal officials get a pass? Sincerely, Cranky as shit
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Aug 30, 2023 15:28:04 GMT -5
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 30, 2023 15:28:04 GMT -5
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Aug 30, 2023 16:10:41 GMT -5
Post by minx on Aug 30, 2023 16:10:41 GMT -5
Both episodes sound exactly like a petit-mal seizure.
And it would make sense seeing as he fell and had a severe concussion as a result.
I want him gone as much as the next person, but I do hope these seizures aren't the cause of his departure. People with epilepsy have it hard - lots of people think that since it's a disorder of the brain, it means that you're incapable of a job with any pressure or responsibilities. Don't want to make life any harder for them.
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Aug 30, 2023 16:36:08 GMT -5
Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 30, 2023 16:36:08 GMT -5
Do you remember this line? "It is time for them to go".
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Post by minx on Aug 31, 2023 14:08:15 GMT -5
Oh, it's definitely time for him to go - he's long past his best-by date. Just wishing that he had been voted out or retired before this.
But it's assholes like him (and Feinstein) who ruin shit for the rest of us.
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Aug 31, 2023 14:35:39 GMT -5
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Aug 31, 2023 14:35:39 GMT -5
One of the first headlines I read this morning was MTG Says McConnell Unfit To Serve
Yes. I had a good chuckle at the raw bloody irony.
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Post by minx on Sept 1, 2023 9:08:03 GMT -5
I think a friend put it best. No matter what your political beliefs, seeing an old man have a medical incident while speaking before a group and then seeing the look of confusion and frailty on his face afterwards should be disturbing and sad. At the same time, we need to separate his condition from his politics and the harm he's done to our country. So you can feel sorry for him having to go through this, but still despise him for his beliefs.
However, I still have a problem getting past the fact that if you or I were dealing with his medical issues, he not only wouldn't give a shit, but would happily cut off needed services to help us to score political points. There is a very special place in hell waiting for him and his ilk.
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Post by Dave's Not Here Man on Sept 3, 2023 15:32:58 GMT -5
I don't think that we jave to mourn every loss but at the same time you have to have been a very certain kind of asshole to get me celebrate yours. Even his would not rise to that disrespect and while I figure in the adjunct humanity I still have this feeling of sadness for those that may not have seen him as anything other than a beloved family member.
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Post by minx on Sept 5, 2023 9:38:59 GMT -5
Agreed John.. And like Feinstein's family and friends, it must be especially painful to watch this play out on such a public stage.
Just because he'll leave a legacy of hatred, doesn't mean that he isn't human. It definitely also doesn't mean that we can't despise him for his actions.
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